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[Jatts]

I made this to find out why certain individuals find drawn girls attractive, whether they be anime or videogames or whatever. Since this is an 18+ section, I guess people can go into much more detail about their reasons I guess? And no this isn't made to insult people, I'm just curious on people's views and their reasons. This can be for people to post their reasons, or for people to just discuss it in general I suppose.

As for myself, I have my own reasons and maybe I'll post them later if people actually talk in this thread. lol

[zjhentohlauedy]

simple. perfect bodies, flawless skin, etc. etc.

characters were made to be perfect, desirable and caters to the viewer's specifications.

like a custom made girl

[Insertion_Alpha]

I might have to say... because Reality as we know it is imperfect and that there's too much unpredictability, and therefore people wouldn't want to live in such a world, so they escape to Fantasy, and those ladies in fantasy are more... perfect.

[Jatts]

I should of asked a more detailed question, such as this one. Why are people attracted to anime, but I mean the specifics such as style. For example why does a specifically drawn anime eye attract us so much, or a specifically drawn hair. It's small details like this that I think about, and I find interesting that such small things can attract you. I know that if I see an eye drawn a certain style, it just naturally attracts me but is hard to explain. Or something small as a single piece of hair being in a specific style.

This is one of the reasons why I think being attracted to drawn girls is fine, because it's being attracted to a piece of art. I'm not only attracted to the female body, but I always pay attention to all the details that can make a picture great. Sometimes, like stated earlier, I can't really explain why sometimes.

[Enemy Commander]

First post in this section. I think generally it's a lot easier to fall in love with a drawn character than an actual human being. Quite often the fictional body is flawless, no that's silly. With drawings it's so much easier to find what kind of woman you're looking for in terms of looks and personality. In life, you'd be lucky you meet an attractive person who has a great personality. And that's not gonna happen when you spend all day in your mom's basement. And then getting her to like you, that's another ordeal in itself.

I however like real life women. Not drawn women. I don't how someone could fall in love with a fictional character. Though I'm not them. So I suppose I could never answer that question.

When you think about it you can sympathize for a fictional character. I'd assume if you drop the boundaries and ignore the fact they aren't real I guess it'd possible to fall in love them.

[peregrin]

There are certain physical characteristics that society has deemed "attractive." These are not fixed and change over time. For example, ever wonder why so many of the paintings of women in the Renaissance are a bit on the chubby side? 'Cause that's what was hot in those days. It's not much different now: huge boobs, skinny waists, etc. etc. Of course, there are different varieties of "attractive" but the general tropes are there (personality-wise, too, not just with physical appearance). I don't think we should delude ourselves into thinking it's something "better" or largely different from a pure physical attraction to real-life people, because that's almost exactly what it is. In fact, you can even caricature the traits that are considered desirable to obtain a sort of "hyper-attractiveness" that you can't actually get in reality. I want to stress the fact, however, that these traits don't make a fictional, artistic portrayal of a woman (or man) "perfect," but rather makes them imperfect in ways that cater ultimately to the sexual fetishes of modern society. The Barbie doll is a great example of this given that a real-life Barbie would be incapable of walking due to her skewed humanoid anatomy. And yet she has been an implicit paradigm of female sexuality for some 50-odd years.

As for my own reasons, well... I'm just as human as the next guy. I'm not going to pretend that I have some highly intellectual or noble grounds for being attracted to fictional portrayals of women. I just have a sex drive as much as the next guy, and there's a certain degree of fetishism involved in having a sex drive, no?

[Insertion_Alpha]

Short version:
It's the same reason why Moe works sell.

[Mikhael]

RL porn does better for me. I love that drawn stuff, but sometimes it can seem flat or boring. Also I can get off to a crude sketch much easier then that overly glossy anime style a lot of porn is in. The crude sketch wouldn't distract me, and leave more to my head anyway.

Another thing is I don't need material at all when I fantasize about one of two particular fetishes of mine. Everything else I do.

[Archangel]

Just taking in specific of Erogae, you take many successful aspects and pile them into one.
For example, to make a good erogae you need...
1.An excellent artist
2.An excellent seiyuu
3.An excellent scenario writer

It's combining the best of three people's skills, they can create a character in a situation which is truly appealing.
"perfect" body, Incredibly erotic voice, and then a scenario which leads up to the event, all which adds to the overall experience of it.

A real girl in a normal situation cannot simulate any of these.

Also, as of recent it's harder for otaku guys to get girlfriends. After that they either become afraid and draw back into the 2D world where they don't need to worry much for finances, emotional problems, and commitment. The 2D world will always be there for them so long they have the means to view it.



In terms of features of characters, its all up to personal taste. Certain features which attract your undivided attention.
If you want me to post some personal analytical examples I can.

[Jatts]

If you want, you can post some examples. I may later. Afterall, it's an 18+ section so lets make use of it. lol

[Konata]

As said above. Illustrated characters are drawn to be perfect. When you combine this with a cute voice, and a personality that will cause your heart to stop from moe-ness, you have your girl.

People are into slightly different traits in these females, which is why there is a common variety of girls in anime. Take K-ON! for example - you have a loli, a quite/shy/clumsy girl, a hyperactive -centre of attention- girl, ultimate cuteness beyond sense girl, and a mature tsundere (sort of). The characters are designed to trigger certain emotions towards the watcher, which usually leads to the love and obsession of that character.

Also, for the record:

[Archangel]

It's not an 18+ example anyways.
It's just character design + my personal eye.

For example, here are a few images from my favorite artist Inugami Kira.
http://oreno.imouto....antsu-seifuku-s
http://oreno.imouto....ymphony-pannya-
http://konachan.com/...-seifuku-skirt-

To some, this may look like you average cute bishoujo character, that's totally fine.

But to me, there a few key things in detail which draws my attraction towards the imagine.
1. The eyes. The attention and brushwork put fourth in creating solely the eyes is great. Inugami's sty;e is to use incredibly dark, (however not black) colors for the eyes of her characters. The eye color pretty much stands out to the whole image. Also, you will notice the intensive brushwork in creating the eyebrows.

2.Fashion sense. All of her characters have attention to clothing. You can tell that much work has been put into it. From frills on clothing, to tiny accessories. I'm not certain whether this is fact or not, but one may guess that Inugami has studies fashion design at least at a basic level.

3.The hair. Look at her style and how she does the hair on her characters. She always puts dark highlights on the edge of the character's hair to contrast the bright lighting. And she's also got lighting right. The fact that if light shines from above, the hair on the innerside would be darker,

Anyways, all these things compiled together make me love Inugami's art. This is just personal preference, and I'm sure everyone has their own tastes in terms of character design.
I wouldn't call these aspects a fetish or anything of that sort, It's more or less what personally grasps my attention and what makes get that burning sensation inside.
Now, I'm not a complete 2D enthusiast, but I do have high appreciation for it whether it is in purely artistic form or H.

[Konata]

It's amazing how people's taste differs so much. Those pictures don't really do anything for me. I'll take a look through my HDD and find my "perfect" image. 84,000 images to filter through, though. May take a while.

However, your avatar is one of my favourite pics I've seen on DS. I just have to stare at it every time I see it.

[hint]If you have the original, I'd very much appreciate it if you could post it, so I can wallpaper it or something! [/hint]

[Christmas Nidoqueen]

Can I have a girl in real life? No.

Can I have the girl on the picture? No.

Whatever.

[LegendaryMackioVirus]

Same reason I like the appearance of women in this plane: they're cute, they're pleasant to the eye, and look gorgeous in (BLEEP).

[Mayson]

I think, it has something to do with the brain and imagination. I'm not a biologist, but I found out that a very well written description of a sexual intercourse can be very arousing and lead to wet pants. It happened to me several times and it was nothing but text.

It's probably because our brains after years of sexual imprinting connect certain colors, forms and words with something sexual and then we get aroused. It has probably has to do with the same reason why an experiment I read about once worked well.

Basically, a scientist had a theory and invited some people for a banquet. When everyone had arrived, the scientist turned the normal lights off and turned some neon lights on. Now all the meals had strange, unusual colors like blue bananas for example. Nobody ate anything as long as the neonlight was on. It was later explained that it has probably to do with the connection our brain makes to the colors of food and that the colors of the meals made the guests brain consider that the food is moldy.

There has to be more to it than just the colors, but it's definitely an important part. Usually we find humans then attractive, when they look very healthy. 2D anime characters often look healthy, nobody draws them with eyerings or an ill, pale skin. Unless it's a story element, that is. We probably wouldn't find a 2D girl attractive if it had a neon-green, flashy color or a zombie skin (and as usual, there are exceptions to this).

[rena]

Archangel, on 08 April 2011 - 08:44 AM, said:

Just taking in specific of Erogae, you take many successful aspects and pile them into one.
For example, to make a good erogae you need...
1.An excellent artist
2.An excellent seiyuu
3.An excellent scenario writer

It's combining the best of three people's skills, they can create a character in a situation which is truly appealing.
"perfect" body, Incredibly erotic voice, and then a scenario which leads up to the event, all which adds to the overall experience of it.

A real girl in a normal situation cannot simulate any of these.

Also, as of recent it's harder for otaku guys to get girlfriends. After that they either become afraid and draw back into the 2D world where they don't need to worry much for finances, emotional problems, and commitment. The 2D world will always be there for them so long they have the means to view it.



In terms of features of characters, its all up to personal taste. Certain features which attract your undivided attention.
If you want me to post some personal analytical examples I can.

I think this is quite sad. and I also think that the reasoning behind otakus not being able to get GF's is because alot of them are ONLY attracted to 2D girls - or only look for perfection within a partner because of what the 2D world puts out there. there is never an imperfect girl, but in reality noone is perfect. otaku's can often have high standards for themselves because of this and not just accept a girl for who she is. attractiveness isn't everything in the world.
I also don't see how people can get aroused to 2D and that's very ignorant of me since I used to enjoy futa but not on irl people. but I think i liked futa because it was a fantasy and i never wanted it in reality. and thus, i can understand weird fetishes like that in H but not in real life. - I don't see how this can relate to just a normal-drawn girl, who is perfect in everyway. does this mean that some people perhaps want to have a perfect girl in fantasy but not reality too? i don't think my (old) situation and this relate.
does not like H anymore tho, for along time now. does not like irl porn either. I've found my imagination to be the best way forward when it comes to such things.

[Mayson]

rena, on 08 April 2011 - 01:48 PM, said:

Does not like irl porn either. I've found my imagination to be the best way forward when it comes to such things.

I'm with you on that one. Pornographic poses usually turn me off. Especially when the actors are trying extra hard or speaking with a lusty voice. That is so horrible and cliché.

[Majbuki]

Not to spin cycle and recycle what a lot of people have said

But the main key points are;

-Escapism from reality
-Enjoying that "perfection" that otherwise isn't possible IRL

And probably a long shot, but influence is a big factor. I mean if I didn't get influenced by subbed anime at a somewhat young age, I wouldn't be downloading copious amount of animoo like I am right now and probably won't have a H-folder (I don't have it on my current HD, but I think I still have it on my spare 500gig) and like the general 4chan rules that are 34 and 63 (Porn of anything regardless, and genderbent versions of everything)

I reckon those three points in summary give a general answer to the OP question without much detail.

Also typing a meaningful answer at midnight after work isn't the best idea.

[DarthNicolas]

It's probably for a similar reason like that of people that like real chicks in movies or porn.Both those and 2D are equally unattainable,but you still prefer the perfect to the flawed.